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Dec 1, 2008

Obama’s Big Dilemma

From The Sunday Times
November 30, 2008

Andrew Sullivan

A small and largely unnoticed spat among the transition planners for the president-elect, Barack Obama, broke out last week. It was the first genuinely passionate debate among the Obamaites and it centres on a terribly difficult and terribly important decision that will be among the first that Obama has to make.

How does he deal with the legacy of criminal actions of his predecessor’s administration when it comes to detention, interrogation, abuse and torture of terror suspects? That has long hovered in the back of the minds of those of us who supported Obama, in large part because he alone had the moral authority to draw a line underneath the criminality of the George Bush-Dick Cheney years and restore credibility and honour to America’s antiterror policies.

The constitutional crisis is in some ways deeper than the financial one. We will find out soon enough if this really is change we can believe in rather than merely hope for.


At 11:52 AM , Blogger La Sirena said...

Yes, we can end the criminal behavior.

Of course, Bush is going to try to pardon every single, bingle one for every single, bingle thing and I think the surface has only been scratched re: the violence and thieving that has been perpetrated by this administration.

And the mainstream media STILL refuses to call W a crook for the most part.

word verif = "conacea"

Is that a con that pretends to be a panacea?

At 12:56 PM , Blogger Indigobusiness said...


I'm going to write that down.

That's rich, especially considering I just read about how W considers himself a liberator. Bragging how he maintained his "values" and didn't sell his soul.


At 6:30 PM , Blogger Zoro said...

I am afraid that the new defender of America's constitution will not be able to clear up the gun laws before he takes a bullet himself. There are some crackpot crackshots out there whose mission, if successful, would please those on the dynastic right, plunging USA into a civil war, or worse, comfort eating on a scale unheard of since the murder of Louis Quatorze.

We are entering a world where voters can consume their politicians analogously to chewing gum. We hope that they don't punish us all for spitting instead of swallowing.


At 7:59 PM , Blogger Indigobusiness said...

It's a constitutional right to have a gun in America. To fend off anyone infringing on the protections of the Constitution. Sacred ground, Z.

And besides, laws don't stop killers from having guns, just law abiding citizens/victims.

Cities should impose some restrictions, but in the wild, wild west...never.

Louis Quatorze was a racehorse...at least to me.

At 4:28 PM , Blogger Zoro said...

Thoroughbred no doubt.

At 4:30 PM , Blogger Zoro said...

Sorry: you must have meant Red Rum.


At 5:17 PM , Anonymous Ib said...

Louis Quatorze

At 1:04 AM , Blogger Indigobusiness said...

We could'nt possibly fit anymore cake in our piehole.

No savior gonna pull our fat from this fire, Z, it'll just have to burn itself out, I reckon.

At 1:15 PM , Blogger Zoro said...

Nice thinkin' dude - gadzooks, there's a humanist on the loose.

At 6:39 PM , Blogger La Sirena said...

hahahahah! Came back to read responses and got "birdwool"...

I love the silly art of word verification clarification.

At 7:13 PM , Blogger Indigobusiness said...

I've been getting some real doozies.


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