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Nov 23, 2008

Ringo Forgives God

in related news:

Vatican Officially "Forgives" John Lennon For Being

More Popular Than Jesus

John Lennon Videos here


At 5:59 PM , Blogger Zoro said...

John Lennon's death carried the trappings of martyrdom, which is how it might be seen if the erstwhile author of "Imagine", bequeathed to humanism a blueprint for religion-less living. He then succumbed to the bullet of a man who went totally astray. Religion is used to 'keep the loonies on the path,' How ironic that Lennon's petard was hoisted by someone so obviously bereft of humanity. I gloss here, so correct me if necessary.

La Sirena's recent post aimed at egoists speaks volumes about how 'bleeding hearts and artists' make their stand. I humbly confess to being addicted to narcissism, and those who follow science like yourself Indigus, must see the hype daily. I like how the words and images cut me to the quick because it's all about me.


At 4:51 AM , Blogger Indigobusiness said...

Seems you've lost the plot a bit, Nick.

It's not about institutions, but the grist of their mills.

I'll let the 'erstwhile author' speak to his beliefs:

Your Own God

"You're just left with yourself all the time, whatever you do anyway. You've got to get down to your own God in your own temple. It's all down to you, mate."

John Lennon


"But nobody's perfect, etc., etc. Whether it's Janov or Erhardt or Maharishi or a Beatle. That doesn't take away from their message. It's like learning how to swim. The swimming is fine. But forget about the teacher. If the Beatles had a message, it was that. With the Beatles, the records are the point, not the Beatles as individuals. You don't need the package, just as you don't need the Christian package or the Marxist package to get the message.

People always got the image I was an anti-Christ or antireligion. I'm not. I'm a most religious fellow. I was brought up a Christian and I only now understand some of the things that Christ was saying in those parables. Because people got hooked on the teacher and missed the message. All this bit about electing a President. We pick our own daddy out of a dog pound of daddies."

John Lennon

"When real music comes to me - the music of the spheres, the music that surpasses understanding - that has nothing to do with me, cause I'm just the channel. The only joy for me is for it to be given to me, and to transcribe it like a medium...
those moments are what I live for."

John Lennon


I believe in God, but not as one thing, not as an old man in the sky. I believe that what people call God is something in all of us. I believe that what Jesus and Mohammed and Buddha and all the rest said was right. It's just that the translations have gone wrong.

John Lennon

At 6:59 AM , Blogger Zoro said...

Being Nicholas as was Santa Klaus, I can't do "gift-wrapped" contrary to what one might have assumed. There is a big part of gift-giving in how I practice care and support in my workplaces though. My methods consist of enveloping an verbal offering to another person, wrapped up with layers of meaning tuned to the receiver. I have no idea what occurs then but what is given is almost a conundrum, or perhaps(dare I say?) a koan. My blog tries to achieve this - "not the package but the message." I agree that it is pretty special to feel like a conduit to the harmony of the spheres. I too am a simple working class hero.

At 7:54 AM , Blogger Indigobusiness said...

Koans consist of Universal truth simplified to poetic essence.

Your method of "enveloping an verbal offering to another person, wrapped up with layers of meaning tuned to the receiver" seems a bit presumptuous and bloated.

Anti-koan, perhaps?

But, I'll admit to slogging through more than one unwrapping and seeing different things. Maybe there is something there? It would be easier to tell without all the bells and whistles and gilt lilies.

Not that I can't enjoy or appreciate, it's just such a clue bag.

At 2:35 PM , Blogger I.:.S.:. said...

Who's Nick?

At 4:19 PM , Blogger Indigobusiness said...

My arch nemesis and itinerant guru, Zoro.


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